I once dismissed it at firecrackers going off in the middle of the night... but then I realized it wasn't 4th of July.

Do NOT live here. The rent is reasonable by fmv standards, but too high for all the crap you have to put up with:

Elevator always broken; report to CA Division of Occupational Safety and Health. Only 2 elevators for each building, and one is always broken or occupied by residents moving (sprinting) out. The one elevator that works - brace yourself and wear a neck brace.

Parking is expensive. Security "Spock" turned ---- on the residents instead of focusing on the main problems. If you opted their indoor parking, look out for homeless folks living in there, and use caution not to run over them along with the pigeons. If you park outside (which means, by the projects) be ready to replace your window glass every so often and expect dents. Check your insurance coverage.

Pet rent is astronomical;

lots of Section 8;

Safety: Security is non-existent; tfc does not disclose burglaries. call local police department for reports on fillmore center. of course, there's the entertainment value of hearing gunshots and police sirens in the middle of the night.

washers/dryers are expensive and of bad quality. similar to wetting your clothes and tossing it up like a pizza dough - that'll be $5/toss please...

grounds: pet feces/urine...kinda like standing on an uncleaned kitty litter.

staff: people work here' but i have to give credit to the cleaners/maintenance staff - they do their best. but middle management is ludicrous - like you owe them something;

maintenance: still waiting to fix. i put in my request october of 2007.

these are facts, and it's a consensus by many residents. i did not heed apartment ratings' advice last year, so here i am writing my advice to you. if you think my opinion is too biased, find random residents and ask their opinions. ask the leasing office (if they will disclose) the turnover rate of residents. you'll find most residents live here for a year (their lease term), and move out.

finally, like with any purchase, do your homework: think about it, gather lots of information in order to make sound judgments. the leasing agent has a different objective in mind. remember that you have to live here for a year, and consider the moving costs associated with it if you have to find another place the following year if you are dissatisfied.

User Responses
From: Anonymous	Date: 06/01/2008
I know everything you said is true I lived there for the one year of my lease but I really don't think that your comment about Section 8 is good or bad. Not all Section 8 people are bad just like not all people not on section 8 are good. People are people good and bad on both sides of the scale.
From: curtsmith	Date: 08/26/2008
hi i like your sites curtsmith Best Apartments in San Francisco
From: Anonymous	Date: 10/17/2008
I live in a differnt building than you and here we have no problems with gunshots. Our apartment is clean, well taken care of. We have washer /dryer in our unit and it works fine. We put a repair order twice, and one time we had to wait a week without a response, so we called them and repairmen showed up in 48hrs. It does get noise on the street even at night but that is just city living. I have seen some people car broken into, in fact witnessed it once. Black teenagers took stole a purse than was left in a car. So, do not leave anyting n your car. Parking is not plentiful, but not too difficult to find. Our only inconvenience is this plaza remodeling which has been taking 5 months now. In the beginning there was a lot of noise from heavy equipment. We also do not have a lot of families in our building. There are 2 bus stops, restaurants, grocery store, post office, all nearby. I think it is the best place in SF to live in. It is very conveninent and rent is less than similar buildings in downtown or at Post apartments. I give 4 out of 5 stars.
From: Anonymous	Date: 03/10/2009
tHE TECHNICIANS AND PATROL GUYS ARE AWESOME THOUGH! (AND FAST)

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