I've had not problems....Will re-sign lease. Best dollar value for downtwon high rise.
From: PTResident45Date posted: 7/15/2009
Years at this apartment: 2009 - 2009
10 responses
I was very nervous about moving in as most the reviews mentioned bed bugs, horrible smells, lousy service, etc.... So far I haven't experience it and highly doubt anybody is being objective in their negative comments. I'm assuming most people that write the reviews cause the problems themselves and are too delusional to realize this is a pretty good place to live. I've lived in the tower for 4 months and have not had a single problem. No funny smells, no weird bugs in the apartment, no issues with the staff etc.... If I had one complain, which isn't even an issue, is at times when there is a line at the entrance it might take my friends a whole FIVE MINUTES!!! to get in (insert sarcasm). Sometimes I'll see residents frustrated they actually have to check in a guest - assuming those are the people writing a review. Also, I filled out a service request because one of my outlets had paint on it and needed it scraped off - they were there within 48 hrs or less to fix problem. I highly recommend this place if you work in the loop or want to know what it's like downtown. For those people that complain about the smallest thing I highly recommend you either buy your own condo or go live in an apartment that charges 2000 a month for a one bed room where you can ring a bell and have a servant come to your door within a few minutes if you need anything....
Again, great place to live, but know there may be a couple minor inconveniences such as waiting in line if a guest wants to come in or waiting 24 - 48 hours to get service on your apartment - neither of which are big deals. Again, to those writing the negative reviews - You all feel entitled to something more than what you are actually paying for so please don't bother us with your lame reviews because you want 5 star living for 3 star price. I'll be renewing my lease next year.
If you are worried about anything feel free to respond to this post and I'll try to answer back. I'm tired of people bashing this place.... It's actually pretty sweet.
I'll even be willing to give you a "real" tour if you add me as a referral when moving in.
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 07/15/2009 |
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Just bc you've had a good experience doesn't mean that discounts others' bad experiences. Why the hell would you move into a place with a reputation for parasites that feed on you while you sleep. Do you even realize how much money and emotional anguish this things cause? Sad and disgusting that you would dismiss that. Obviously if 74% do not recommend the place the numbers have to signify something.
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| From: goodies83 | Date: 07/15/2009 |
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I think this place is OK for the current concessional rates but for the make belief market rent (which is $500 concessional rates) it is crap.
The way you ve made personal attacks on those who've written negative reviews makes me wonder hmmm... either someone from the mgmt or a person with no common sense at all!!
Congratulation!! on not having any issues with mgmt yet but my dear you spoke too soon. 4 months definitely not enough!! Pretty soon you would want to sublet/add roommate and they will make u repay the concession. In case u wanna switch to bigger or smaller apt within PT they will charge a $1500 transfer fee etc. etc.
Its good to know that u r liking it here! Good luck for your stay and please don't doubt others intellect it makes you sound really really stupid!!
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 07/18/2009 |
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I see a lot of complaints about bedbugs which I don't understand. Reading these reviews makes me a bit hesitant to move in...but how is it the fault of the management if you get bed bugs? Are you moving into uncleaned, yet furnished apartments? If you brought your own bed and got it months later, it's because you don't regularly clean your unit.
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| From: ptsucks | Date: 07/23/2009 |
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you are REALLY RETARDED. i by no means have a ------- bell to ring for service. I expect to get 5 star service if I'm paying the rent, so excuse the people like myself with class, that don't like getting treated like cattle. I pay $1200 to live in the heart of the south loop and have a doorman, no STUPID guest rules, no waiting in line with the other herds of people to get in the building, a doorman, a FREE exercise room, no nasty budbugs or absotutely idiotic front desk people, no food smells, and no DOG RULES. So if you think for one second that you are being cute and persuasive, you're wrong, no one likes being treated like crap, especially when they are paying to live somewhere. Since i just won my lawsuit again PT hopefully it'll help to either close that piece of ---- section 8 housing building and get rid loser lower class idiots like you out of there :)
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 07/23/2009 |
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I used to be a resident....bedbugs are no longer a problem in the building, though they certainly once were, and it was NOT the fault of most of the residents who ended up getting them. (Bedbugs travel from apartment to apartment really easily and it has nothing to do with cleaning.) The problem seems to be mostly fixed now.
But the other problems still stand. 4 months is not a long enough time to experience issues with the management. Their fees are ridiculous, and sometimes even illegal (I have pointed this out to them, and $500 of fees were mysteriously removed from my account). Guess they count on residents being unfamiliar with the Chicago Landlord-Tenant Ordinance.
I'll grant you this: They offer you a decent deal to get you to move into the apartments, with lots of concessions. But when it comes time to renew, or you need to change your lease somehow, the rent is jacked way up by thousands of dollars. So if you can deal with it for a year and then move out, fine.
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 07/23/2009 |
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seriously folks? remember lawsuits are public records; there has been ONE. and it's still unsettled. some people believe everything they hear, and don't question it. i've been here almost 8 years - really! my renewal rent used to go up like 5% when the economy was good... the last time, it went DOWN $200! no joke! 'going up thousands' has got to be just BS and unfortunately no one knows the truth just reading this stuff. there's no way they're giving me a discount like that, and raising others. they are truly giving new people and long time tenants the same offers. and illegal fees? don't you think a place like this would have been challenged a long time ago if they were really trying to get away with bogus stuff? whatever man, i renewed for another 12 months. i should buy a house, but as long as i'm renting i will stay right where i'm at.
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 07/23/2009 |
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You are retarded. Read up on bedbugs first before you start critiquing others. Bedbug infestation has nothing to do w/ cleanliness of one's apartment. In fact, PT has long had a history of bed bug problems. In 2006, there were even several residences that decided to sue the management for mal-practice and mishandling of the problem.
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| From: PTResident45 | Date: 07/28/2009 |
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First off, to the individual that starts paragraphs with "You are retarded" and "You are really retarded": Before you call an individual a "lower class idiot" you should probably learn how to constructively critique, so you don't sound so incredibly unconvincing, uneducated, and very much a fool. Not saying you are, just choose your words a bit more carefully as to not insulting others. Furthermore, you dishonesty is clear as there have been no recent case settlements. If there were one it would be in public records (very easy to determine with a quick public record search). Seriously, why make up something? If I'm wrong, please share your case number with all of us so you can prove me/us wrong - and don't just say "I did win it you're retarded and you don't know what your talking about". Yes, there was litigation a few years ago involving bed bugs - It appears to have been settled on the side or dropped and that's why one can't find a case closed record.
To those thinking about living here I'm going to put it to you this way: In the past 9 years there have been about 7 residents who have had bed bugs (documented cases). Let's assume each of these individuals had their own apartment. Let's also say this happened in 2006. So for the year of 2006, a grand total of .00304% of all residential units had bed bugs (using 7 units out of a total approximate 2300 units). Now, over a 9 year period, and being very conservative in our numbers, one only has a 0.000968 chance of getting bed bugs in their unit. Parameters used: only one individual per unit with a 30% annual turnover rate and 85% occupancy with 7 confirmed cases of bed bugs. Now, seeing the number above and listening to the attacks on this building it is clear that if you buy into the bed bug hype you should probably also never ride in a car as the chance of being in a car accident is about 5X (*est) more likely - sorry to be morbid. If you don't buy the above numbers I invite you to prove me wrong - that is, prove the odds are higher of getting bed bugs. Note: I was very conservative in my numbers so the odds should be about twice as high! Also, my apologies for bringing in numbers to this debate but statistics don't lie and human emotion, at times, needs to be taken out of the equation. Mind the pun. Side note: Not to beat a horse to death, but to the individual that called me/us "lower class idiots": You may wish to rethink that. To the individual who said something about the "mental and physical anguish of getting bed bugs": I agree I was on vacation once and stayed in room that had them (long before moving to PT) and it was one of the worst experiences of my life - I feel for anybody that got them. I do, however, guarantee if you poll all Chicago residences you have a much higher probability of getting bed bugs in greater Chicago than PT If you just randomly choose an apartment blindly. Again, if people would like to challenge this statement provided data and keep it objective and factual. No more: "That's retarded, no way that's true, etc.. type statements". I have now lived in the towers for 5 months and so far no issues. I have read several comments about paying to change apartments/raising fees, etc. on move out time - I can't speak on this as I have yet to experience a move/re-signing of the lease and thus will not dismiss anybody??s comments on this since. I very much hope this not to be true. Lastly: To the individual that wrote: "either someone from the mgmt or a person with no common sense at all!!" Why is it that every time someone writes something good about this place they are accused of being management or 'stupid'? I'm not with the management and have yet to be accused of being stupid. Maybe we should start believing that everyone that writes a negative comment is management of another property trying to get PT??s business? Obviously, I don't assume that but you guys need to start realizing 20 or so negative reviews this year out of 3,500 current residents is a pretty low number of unhappy people.
I in no way mean to put down people that have had, or are having, a bad experience - I honestly feel for you. A home is the one place you should always be comfortable and unfortunately you are not and I would recommend you move out (as several of you have). But, and I say this with the utmost sympathy for all that are miserable here, you are the minority.
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 08/16/2009 |
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Alright, I recently moved out after living at PT for seven years and just had to speak up. While the bed bug problem did seem to be resolved by the time I moved out, it had grown to epidemic proportions; not the .00304% you state. And yes, while a bedbug infestation has little to do with cleanliness, it only grew to epidemic proportions because the current/past managements refusal to deal with it. And yes, there were several lawsuits which were settled out of court. Oh, and by the way, PT is nowhere near 85% occupancy, 65% - 70% would be more accurate; and the turnaround would be closer to 50% - 60%. And I also consider these conservative figures on the high end. Many of the fees charged by management companies are indeed illegal. Management companies prey on the ignorance/complacency of their tenants. And the reason that you don't hear more about this is that if you challenge them they will simply drop the fees to avoid litigation. Also, far too many tenants simply pay these illegal fees to avoid the hassle of taking legal action. As to whether or not you are with management, I don't know. It does seem odd that you would rent in a building with such bad reviews (and not just here but on other sites) and with a management company with such a bad reputation. Especially, since there are much better deals to be had at other properties. I also know that at least one member of the Waterton management staff does response to reviews on this site. Your response does have the tone of someone affiliated with Waterton. |
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| From: Anonymous | Date: 08/16/2009 |
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May I ask how you know that the lawsuits have been settled? Thank you in advance.
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