This all seems a bit ridiculous to me. We all would agree, I feel, that the real problems of today lie in the inability of ADULTS to take responsibility for their own words, actions, lives etc. It seems to me that the problems posed by the residents all result from a lapse in their responsibility. If you have a dog, it is courteous to clean up behind it because not all residents have pets due to the extreme amount of responsibility that is required to maintain one. Also, we were told at move in that we were not allowed to have pets in the courtyard so if you were fined it was again a direct lack of responsibility on your part. When will people learn that NO actually does mean NO and that real life has consequences which by definition are designed to correct your negligent behavior(s). Much of what is said is not true nor possibly true. This building was built in the 60's so the 8 in. of concrete and steel between each make it extremely difficult to hear your neighbors. The grounds are clean, the pool is clean the other residents are friendly and the office staff is responsible. They deal with problems quickly and this might be why they are disliked. They are easy to deal with and friendly but if you don't clean up behind your animals you will be fined, if you don't pay your rent you will be evicted. This does not make our staff rude, it makes them adults who deal with adult issues in an adult manner so as to keep this property as clean and attractive as possible. If you were allowed to just bum around here then it would become a section 8 property and the type of complaints that are mentioned here would become a reality instead of creative and imaginative narratives from disgruntled residents. Why don't you tour the property and make your own decision' Speak to residents at the pool or at the mailboxes. Drive through the property at various hours of the day and see what kind of people live here. Ask the right questions and come with a list of expectations that you have for the home that you are looking for. If this place meets the expectations then great and if not, then any ADULT would just not sign a lease. People who have yet to grow up still whine about issues (real or not) that were evident all along but they ignored them until they became upset. As for the complaints about the washing system that is located on each floor as opposed to each apartment...did you sign the lease without knowing this, without seeing that these were not in your apartment. Give people a break... a little bit of positive energy might actually attract the right people to this amazing property! Beyond satisfied resident!

User Responses
From: mkforu	Date: 07/08/2009
While I agree with this poster, I don't believe there is 8 inches of concrete between the walls. When I lived there I complained about the neighbor next door several times with that rumbling TV coming into my unit. I guess it all boils down to if you have respectful quiet neighbors noise shouldn't be a problem, no matter which apartment you live in.
From: eloncivic	Date: 07/08/2009
I am the original poster and I accidentally left out a word with respect to the 8 inches of concrete. There are 8 inches of concrete between each floor. This comment was made with respect to the person who complained about hearing the person above her apartment. Sorry for the typo.

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