I am thankfully about to end a 1.5 year stay at stuytown's 430 E 20th St building! Among several complaints, my biggest is about the noisy inconsiderate neighbors who have been living here since July/August. There's 4-5 of them living in a 2 bedroom apartment, I'm not sure if they're college students or not because I've seen one going to work in the mornings but I think the rest of them do nothing all day. You can hear them shouting and cursing nearly all hours of the day, with the exception of 4am until 9am. Every Friday and Saturday night from about 8pm until 4am, they play music really loud and shout/curse at each other. I've called the security office on at least 10 different occassions. Other times I've heard the guards come up because tenants in other apartments have called. Each time, the officer tells them to keep it down, so they turn down their music, then 5 minutes after the guard leaves, they crank it back up. Of course, the wild shouting ("woooooo" and "yeah", mostly) continues. Sometimes they go out around mindight but when they come back at 3am, the music/shouting continues. Stuy town has done NOTHING to prevent this. Wouldn't you think that if a security guard has to come tell these guys to shut up every weekend that they would get some kind of serious warning' Finally one day I made the mistake of coming out of my apartment while they were BSing the guard that they would "keep it down" and that they were "leaving in 10 minutes"... I told the guard that these guys say the same thing every Friday and Saturday night after which a arguing match broke out between me and the 10 people who were in their apartment at the time. They left the apartment then but when they came back at 3am they continually banged on the walls and screamed loudly. The next morning the banging and screaming continued at 9am. I don't think they realize that I can hear everything they say since their voices are so loud but I heard them saying that they were going to harm my boyfriend and I. Out of concern for my boyfriend and roommates (and myself), I decided to go over there and actually apologize to these idiots for calling security on them!!! I didn't trust stuytown's security enough to feel safe from my neighbors. That was about a month ago and after I move out I'm going to call the resident services office and report these guys, but I highly doubt that anything will be done about it even after I tell them that as a woman I was frightened of their angry threats to "kick my ass" that I heard through the thin wall that we share. I just hope that a family with children doesn't move into my apartment after we leave (due to the $800 rent increase since we first signed the lease in August 2007).

I simply cannot believe that this is tolerated anywhere, let alone these "luxury apartments"... I wouldn't recommend that anyone but a college student live here.

Besides that, there are roaches everywhere in the stairwells, storage room, and laundry room. They recently & unnecessarily replaced the laundry machines and I'm not happy with the quality of the new ones. Occasionally the maintenance folks that come by leave a mess or don't do the job that we requested. I find the resident services people to be ambivalent and bureaucratic. A lot of money is wasted on unnecessary landscaping--several time I've seen trees/shrubs die because they haven't been planted on time.

Overall, while the actual apartments are large compared to most in NY, and the stuytown community can be eye-catching, there are far too many cons that outweigh the good aspects.

We started out in Sept 2007 at $3250/month, then in Feb 2008 they raised it $500 to $3750, then in Feb 2009 they wanted to raise it another $300. We opted out. These raises are ridiculous when I know that they're offering new tenants 1 month free, etc! Don't get sucked in!

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