I have lived in Chatham West for almost 17 years. I agree with many of the other responses that it has gone down hill. I also agree that it appears that management is renting to any and everybody. Those in the the complex and the city know that there has always been a difference between Chatham and Pine Estates. Residents from that complex, who were positive, were on a waiting list for Chatham. Now you cannot tell the difference. Although the majority of the blame lies with management, tenants must be willing to speak up when you see the young people around the complex smoking reefer. Security can only be so many places. For many years,I did not wait for them if I see somethng wrong. I called or said something to the offenders myself. Now over the years, I stay to myself and do not know many of the people around me and the sad thing is that I do not care. Complacency and tenant apathy has also contributed to Chatham West going down hill. If we want it to be what it was, then agree to make a difference.